I’ve been an avid user of Quicken since before I graduated from college. For those keeping track that’ll be 9 years come June. I use Quicken to keep track of everything from our checking accounts, to our house loans, car notes, 401ks and other investments. In short, Quicken contains the entire snapshot of our entire (meager) net worth.
That said, I’ve always had a love-hate relationship with the software. I love what it allows me to do but I hate the restrictions it places on me to do them. I can only run the software on Windows. If I were to be so gregarious as to switch to a Mac, you can’t just open up the data file from the Windows version on the Mac, no you have to cross your fingers and convert it. Being a Linux user I’m out in the cold regardless of how you slice it.
But that isn’t the core of what burns my buns. The kicker is that Intuit has coded a timebomb into each and every version of Quicken. Once a version is 3 years old that version will stop allowing the auto-downloading of data from supporting institutions. To get this feature “back” you have to shell out money for a new version of the software. They tout it as a way to ensure customers are getting the best experience but really it’s a mafia tactic to get more money out of you at least every 3 years.
Two years ago was the first time this became a big problem. I got the mafia warning from Quicken in January and bought the new version of Quicken 2007. It sucked so bad, it could pull a monkey through a garden hose. I was so pissed off that I got a refund for my purchase, got on eBay and bought a secondhand copy of Quicken 2005. That bought me a year’s worth of time. Last January I got the warning again. This time I looked into alternatives and came across Moneydance. I played with it some but decided it wasn’t quite up to a Quicken replacement and went to eBay and bought Quicken 2006.
That brings us up to the here and now. Given how terrible Quicken 2007 was – buying a copy of that off eBay isn’t an option. I could fork out for Quicken 2008, that’s at least a viable option. I can’t, however, purchase Quicken 2009 because it only runs on XP and Vista and the only VM image I have is Windows 2000. And really, who enjoys dealing with the mafia?
So I looked around at other non-Quicken options. This year there were two strong contenders: GnuCash and Moneydance. Some highlights:
- Both are available for multiple platforms, Linux, Windows, and MacOS. This is because GnuCash is written with GTK+ libraries and Moneydance uses Java. This way if I ever do opt to purchase a Mac, I can run it natively there.
- Both support importing of QIF data from Quicken, and I’m told MS Money, so I can import my existing data.
- Both can direct-connect to supporting financial institutions and can import “web connect” files for institutions that use that method instead.
- GnuCash, being 100% open source, is free. Moneydance is a ~$30 purchase and includes free upgrades for 4 years and discounted upgrades after that.
I played with both of them and opted to go for Moneydance. GnuCash appears to be more an accounting package, not a personal finance package. I think it would be great for when we need an accounting package for Benjamin’s business however. Moneydance provides a bit more Quicken-esque experience and appears to be gaining momentum — they’re even hiring Java programmers and support staff.
I’ll be playing with Moneydance for the next couple of weeks and see how it goes. I expect that I’ll be purchasing it at that point in time and forever saying goodbye to the Quicken mafia.
5 thoughts on “Forget Quicken – lets Moneydance”
i’ll be interested to hear how it goes…
… since I’m currently being held hostage by MS Money, and am anxious to find a good alternative.
According to your note, I’ll be experiencing the Quicken time bomb this year. Let me know what you think of Moneydance so we can consider it as an option. -Renee
Let me know how you like it. Hopefully it doesn’t feedback any personal data back to the software dev hut.
Somtimes it frightens me how much you and I are (were) alike…
Ha. I have so been where you are. (This is what I said about our receipt-filing habits, remember?)
Would you believe that I have totally stopped tracking all of my finances with any software? And this—even more incredible—I have stopped balancing my checkbook!
It finally occurred to me, maybe two years ago: I live alone, I’m the only person spending my money, and I live an ungodly amount under my means. I never run out of money, and even if I should for some reason, I have all kinds of automatic transfers and such to kick in.
All that is to say, it occurred to me (not unlike the receipt situation) that it was too big an investment for too little return.
I know you have a husband and you probably don’t put away 40% of your income, but I just can’t help but smile thinking that someday you, too, will chuck all that financial tracking. :-)
With that said, I do use TurboTax to do my taxes. :-)
Re: Sometimes it frightens me how much you and I are (were) alike…
While we don’t live hand-to-mouth, we certainly aren’t stocking way 40% of my income. I fully expect our cash flow to change once Benjamin is out of school, but we aren’t there yet.
I do think I’ll eventually get to the point you’re at now — a situation that sounds oddly comfortable and stress-free. Until then I’ll continue to chug along coercing the pennies into a reasonable facsimile of an optimized state.
As always, thanks for commenting and the reassurance that there’s a light at the end of the tunnel and it isn’t necessarily an oncoming train!